nog.fi meeting 2025.06

Europe/Helsinki
Ballroom (Sokos Hotel Ilves)

Ballroom

Sokos Hotel Ilves

Hatanpään Valtatie 1 33100 Tampere
Fearghas McKay (Flexoptix)
Description

TREX is pleased to host nog.fi meeting 2025.06. The seminar will start at 12:00 and end at around 18:00. There will be a dinner and a networking event after the seminar.

The networking event aka sauna party will take place at the Varala Sports Academy. They also run a motel, so if you plan to stay late at the sauna, you might want to book a room at that motel. They close their reception at 22:00 so make sure you're checked in before that.

Many attendees arrive in Tampere the day before the meeting, so there is an unofficial get together on Monday, the evening before.

Registration
Attendee
102 / 150
Sponsor Registration
Participants
    • 11:00 12:00
      Reception Coffee 1h Lobby

      Lobby

      Sokos Hotel Ilves

      Find your badge, printed programme, friends and colleagues, and favourite sponsor swag.

    • 12:00 13:35
      nog.fi: First Session Ballroom

      Ballroom

      Sokos Hotel Ilves

      Hatanpään Valtatie 1 33100 Tampere

      Session for normal presentations.

      • 12:00
        Opening Statements 10m

        Thanks to sponsors and volunteers, etc.

        Speaker: Fearghas McKay (Flexoptix)
      • 12:10
        Quantum Key Distribution at IXPs:​ The Q-net-Q Project 20m

        Daniel Wagner presents about most recent research activity at DE-CIX. Being part of the "Q-net-Q" consortium, latest advancements in the area of Quantum Key Distribution (QKD) in the context of data centers and at IXPs is being dicsussed. Having a slight touch of marketing style slides, the great cons and even potential show stoppers aren't dismissed; they are presented in a neutral and rational fashion to fuel an honest discussion.

        Speaker: Daniel Wagner (DE-CIX)
      • 12:30
        Mastering Network Operations: The Power of Abstraction in Automation 20m

        By thinking of networking concepts—such as devices, cables, and configurations—as services, we’ve achieved higher levels of abstraction. Daily operations become faster and easier when performed at this abstract level. Services are carefully modeled, hiding complex details under the hood. This transforms each abstracted service into a ‘Lego block’—simple to understand and effortlessly connect with others. The result? A ‘design once, use repeatedly’ approach that boosts efficiency and scalability.

        Speaker: Jaakko Rautanen
      • 12:50
        How the Internet routed around Cable Damage in the Baltic Sea 25m

        An analysis of what effects were visible using RIPE Atlas anchors in the region and elsewhere.

        Speaker: Robert Kisteleki (RIPE NCC)
      • 13:15
        Sin Luz, Sin Internet: An Internet perspective on the April 28 power outage in Spain & Portugal 20m

        A perspective on how the power outage in Spain and Portugal on April 28 impacted Internet traffic, connection quality, and routing (announced IP address space) as seen through Cloudflare Radar.

    • 13:35 13:55
      Coffee Break 20m Lobby

      Lobby

      Sokos Hotel Ilves

    • 13:55 15:35
      nog.fi: Second Session Ballroom

      Ballroom

      Sokos Hotel Ilves

      Hatanpään Valtatie 1 33100 Tampere

      Session for normal presentations.

      • 13:55
        Prelude to a BGP Hijack? 20m

        The current RPKI framework using ROAs, only works to validate route origination.
        To validate route propagation IP Transit providers will implement filters governing which routes can be propagated based on information from the IRRs (Internet Routing Registries) - in our region the RIPE DB.

        This is a real life example of manipulation to the RIPE DB, which could have enabled a BGP Hijack to bypass transit provider filters and Route Origin Validation (ROV).

        Was this a prelude to a BGP Hijack or a simple mistake? You be the judge.

        Speaker: Lasse Jarlskov (Telia Company)
      • 14:15
        Automating Cisco APIC Configuration with Postman: A Practical Guide. 20m

        In this presentation I will demonstrating about how we can do Cisco ACI configuration automatically by the help of Postman.
        This presentation will be including practical demonstration that I will provide it based on the page 11 scenario in the following days.

        Speaker: Amin Hamidi Younessi (Reonel Oy)
      • 14:35
        The Myth around AI Networks & AI for Networks 20m

        Artificial Intelligence (AI) set new demands on current data center infrastructure, as it is undergoing a paradigm shift to be able to cope with the new demands possessed by AI clusters to support various use cases. AI clusters can be built in various sizes based on specific needs and workloads. This presentation will explore the data center network infrastructure evolution around the CLOS IP Fabric with the new requirements posed for building infrastructure for AI data center clusters and various types of workloads that these would host. The basic infrastructure needed for such are highspeed AI data center network, storage, and compute. Building Large Language Models (LLMs) requires centralized data, with demand for large bandwidth, while Inferencing is becoming more commonplace, which is driving a transition to a more distributed computing environment where traffic moves device-to-device and edge-to-core-to-cloud.

        Speaker: Mikael Holmberg (Extreme Networks)
      • 14:55
        Peering at the Speed of RFC8950 20m

        The new TREX Turku only supports RFC8950, and there's also a test route server for RFC8950 at TREX Tampere. This presentation discusses things to take into account when peering using RFC8950. There are also some examples.

        Speaker: Aleksi Suhonen (nog.fi)
      • 15:15
        Analyzing network reliability up to 800G - Impact of SNR thresholds on BER for Coherent (16QAM) and Non-Coherent (PAM4) high speed transceivers under environmental variations 20m

        This presentation investigates the proximity to a low Signal-to-Noise Ratio (SNR) threshold that can still maintain a tolerable Bit Error Rate (BER) in 100G / 400G / 800G network links. Additionally, we account for factors such as temperature and cable length to predict the duration for which a reliable network connection can be sustained between transceivers. The analysis, based on data retrieved using a Flexbox, focuses on comparing the reliability of coherent (16QAM) and non-coherent (PAM4) transceivers, with a detailed discussion on the implications of these technologies on network performance.

        Speaker: Gerhard Stein (Lead Research Engineer)
    • 15:35 15:55
      Coffee Break 20m Lobby

      Lobby

      Sokos Hotel Ilves

    • 15:55 17:25
      nog.fi: Third Session Ballroom

      Ballroom

      Sokos Hotel Ilves

      Hatanpään Valtatie 1 33100 Tampere

      Session for normal presentations.

      • 16:15
        Generating 1 Tbps of traffic on a commodity hardware using T-Rex 20m

        Generating 1 Tbps of traffic, especially if the packet size is small is challenging. Scaling it down to cheaper hardware is even trickier. In this talk I'll explain my path and all the challenges I had to build such load generator, from both hardware and software point of view. I'll talk about network card performance, problems that sub-NUMA clustering presents on modern hardware and explore their effects on the performance.

        Speaker: Vladimir Smirnov
      • 16:35
        Peering automation with PeeringDB 30m

        This presentation will give a practical showcase how peering related configurations can be automated using PeeringDB as a source of information. Elisa has been running automated peering configurations on their public IX sessions already for some time, so practical real-life examples will be given.

        Speaker: Antti Ristimäki
      • 17:05
        Talking to routers with LLMs 20m

        I made a tool that can take natural language request, forward it to an LLM. The LLM can provide network device commands for that request, given that LLM already knows the router model. Then that command is forwarded to the router, and lastly router feedback is forwarded to user. It is a bit underwhelming in real life, it is a cli tool written in python, and in very prototype-y phase. I want to present this idea to the community and want to know if this idea has any future.
        All I have done till now will be available at https://github.com/jonathansaha/llm-router-interface.

        Speaker: Jonathan Saha
    • 17:30 17:55
      Lightning Talks: Tampere Peering Forum Ballroom

      Ballroom

      Sokos Hotel Ilves

      Hatanpään Valtatie 1 33100 Tampere

      Peering introductions and elevator pitches.

      Convener: Aleksi Suhonen (nog.fi)
    • 17:55 18:00
      Closing Statements 5m Ballroom

      Ballroom

      Sokos Hotel Ilves

      Hatanpään Valtatie 1 33100 Tampere

      Thanks to everybody. Also information about dinner and sauna.

      Speaker: Aleksi Suhonen (nog.fi)
    • 18:00 19:40
      Dinner 1h 40m Ballroom

      Ballroom

      Sokos Hotel Ilves

      Hatanpään Valtatie 1 33100 Tampere
    • 20:00 23:59
      Sauna Social 3h 59m Pyhäjärvi C ja D (Varala)

      Pyhäjärvi C ja D

      Varala

      Varalankatu 36 33240 Tampere

      We have a charter bus to transfer attendees to Varala and back.
      If you accidentally miss our bus, Nysse bus number 10 also goes there every 20 minutes, and you can also use it to get back every 30 minutes until 00:40 AM.